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Why 2020 Democrats Can't Take the LGBTQ+ Vote for Granted



this month a slew of presidential candidates showed up at an Iowa pride fest one ran for the cause another silent disco and in New York City the DEM in the lead took a turn behind the bar at Stonewall for the only openly gay man in the race pride means merch and magazine covers candidates might see this community as a block of votes for the taking not surprisingly that's not what we heard from a panel of LGBTQ Americans can I have everybody go around and just tell me their names and how they identify and if you want to volunteer your pronouns as well that's great well my name is Donnie and I use he/him pronouns and I identify as a transgender pansexual or bisexual man my name is Blair I'm transgender and I'm a Republican my name is Caleb by UCC and they pronouns and I identify as a non-binary queer I'm Raquel Willis pronouns she/her/hers identify the black queer transgender woman my name is Sarah long Lola and I identify as a lesbian my name is Jamie I used they/them pronouns identifies a queer non-binary trans femme i also identifying the a spectrum of asexuality i'm benjy I'm a guy and I I'm an American my name is Paul I identify as a gay American male my name is Zachary Zane I use he/him pronouns and I identify as bisexual and queer and Brandon Strock and I'm a gay man David Bell branch see him his identify as assist same gender loving man all right my name is Lucy I'm a lesbian I think that it is clear from the people who are here that the LGBTQ community is not a voting monolith folks who are conservative and Republicans if you could go around and tell me who did you vote for in the last elections for president I voted for Donald Trump okay and I'm gonna do it again Donald J Trump and he gets my vote again all right Hillary Clinton never again chopped 20/20 all right then I voted Trump of nah I'm planning on voting for him again I did not vote for Trump and I will not be voting for him again so I think I may be the only conservative on the panel who is not on the Trump train do you want to tell me why I don't think Trump is a conservative I don't even think he's a Republican even though I can say do I support tax cuts or judges or some of the the policy areas where I think I would overlap with some of my other Republican friends this is a values question for me and Donald Trump does not reflect my values okay Lucy mr. Trump I won't vote for him again though okay I like what he's done and I agree with a lot of his more financial decisions when it comes to our country but his executive orders they're not what we need I don't believe the government should be so involved in our lives how do you feel about Trump the Trump administration when it comes to to LGBTQ folks do you feel that his policies have either helped or harmed the LGBTQ community I think Donald Trump is really changing the Republican Party by working with the gay and lesbian community he wasn't a racist or homophobic till he ran for president his best friend was Joan Rivers who was like the patron saint of gays if there was a homophobic drop of blood in him we would have heard that 20 years ago I would push back and say he was a racist when I actually have here the op-ed that Trump put out about Central Park fire there's nothing here mentioned about racism if anything he's talking about having a safe city for black and brown and white people that's a narrative keeps getting pushed and pushed and pushed and we're going to talk about this man going back to the original question which is has the Trump administration's policies helped or harmed the LGBTQ community when the Trump administration or perhaps just Trump via Twitter puts out a state saying that no no more trans people are allowed in the military that's it we're cutting you off and anybody ends got to leave that affects the lives of transgender citizens of this country it makes us appear less than two other people who now can justify their bigotry and their transphobia because look at what the government does look at how the government treats transgender people or thinks of transgender people as being less than if you're so less than that you can't even serve the country that you live in and go and fight and die so that we can continue to have these rights that everybody says that we should have and we should celebrate then you know how worthy are you you're not worthy I think the material reality of trans people have not improved under Trump at all like full stop and so I do think that the ways in which he moves in our government makes it more difficult particularly for black and brown trans women to just live their lives right because that violence is being stoked yeah I want to know as a trans woman do you feel supported by the Trump administration I feel supported as an American um I my life as a trans person has been impacted positively or negatively other adults um Trump I live my life and I'm just fine all right 2020 president Trump is running again and there are about 50 billion Democrats running right now is anybody exciting you you know I'd be happy with anyone anyone I'd be happy with anyone who was in trouble for I get attacked um Elizabeth Warren if I had to vote right now would have my vote Kamala Harris and you know mayor Pete's adorable but he's not quite adorable enough yeah my frontrunner right now is senator Elizabeth Warren as well I appreciate her her approach on student loan debt because I got it but also like her calling out the issues they're black trans when transgender women are facing right now and not being afraid to say their names really meant a lot to me um so I'm watching her I think Democrats are gonna have to get over their issues and their egos and they're gonna have to work together and so I could a combination of Elizabeth Warren and someone else or Joe Biden in someone or someone just or someone just yeah someone just younger like it's exhausting like Barack Obama was 47 when he was voted into office like all these and this is no I'm not trying to be ageist or anything but like when all the candidates are like in their 70s I'm kind of like how long are you gonna be around what's gonna happen and and seriously like we need somebody with a little bit more youthful energy mayor pete has been mentioned mayor Pete is gay he's been on the cover of magazines with his husband this this having somebody who's gay running right now does that make you want to vote for him it's great have a gay candidate be great table lesbian Kennedy or a trans candidate I believe the policy I could not care less I mean the fact that he is gay that doesn't mean he has my back as a trans person it means nothing to me that he is a gay person because he's also sis and he is also white I don't know why I'm not more excited about him than I am there's something missing and it because there's nothing fresh he's an Obama sequel I'm surprised that everybody is so anti Pete I mean I think I know a lot of sort of peek curious conservatives is that I think you know I think he's very progressive but he's totally moderate and I think even just listening to us I mean everybody's so angry all the time to have somebody who is somewhat aspirational and who is trying to make a pitch for something something better and more they you know something more uniting like why is that so terrible I think it's I think it's nice one of the reasons I walked away from the Democratic Party and liberalism is I'm so fed up with identity politics I am so fed up with political correctness I am so fed up with all ability and everyone here has already said it's lack of policy all identity and that's what he is I think having him out there and being visible is fantastic for for the community I have a nephew a 12 year old nephew who is a little gay boy and for him to be able to see that there is a gay man who was running for president is fantastic is meaningful to you it's meaningful to have him there absolutely okay I'd rather have a beer with him than vote for him because he seems like you want to lean in and talk to him some more you know and his fabulous theater loving husband they sound great but okay I don't necessarily think that he's ready to run the country you

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  1. VICE News
    VICE News June 25, 2019

    VICE News put together a panel made up of 12 members of the LGBTQ+ community and asked them about their politics — which were extremely diverse — and who they like for 2020.
    WATCH NEXT: Pride Doesn't Mean What You Think It Does For This Stonewall Veteran – http://bit.ly/2IGlO1c

  2. ken060693
    ken060693 June 25, 2019

    I mean, you cant serve in the military if you have depression or are taking meds for ADHD either.

    Trans implies taking hormones, which is a big problem for combat readiness, as well as trans people using their military insurance to get transition surgeries removing them from deployment status for half their contract.

  3. Shades of Syn.
    Shades of Syn. June 25, 2019

    1:28 that shit was funny! He almost wanted to laugh.

  4. J S1974
    J S1974 June 25, 2019

    Andrew Yang.. dude is positive… talks about automation and how that will affect the future..

  5. KRANEO ART
    KRANEO ART June 25, 2019

    In this video, we interview boot lickers

  6. chikeokjr24
    chikeokjr24 June 25, 2019

    Wonder how Vice fielded these speakers. Not one Bernie Sanders supporter?? Really??

  7. Chase Oliver
    Chase Oliver June 25, 2019

    LGBTQ Libertarian here.
    I am a cis gay male.
    I think it's stupid to assume that I owe Democrats my vote.
    I vote Libertarian, a party that has stood by Queer Liberation since its founding.
    We are also antiwar, pro criminal justice reform, pro ending the drug war.
    We want to legalize sex work, fight for trans military service, and want to reduce the national debt.

    All of these positions affect the LGBTQ community and the LP has our back. Lp.org is where you can learn more.

  8. chatanwarrior
    chatanwarrior June 25, 2019

    Blaire for president

  9. chatanwarrior
    chatanwarrior June 25, 2019

    No Trump isn't a republican. He's a centrist.

  10. chatanwarrior
    chatanwarrior June 25, 2019

    3 trenders and only 1 real trans woman

  11. Herr Kartoffelkopf
    Herr Kartoffelkopf June 25, 2019

    vice is garbage

  12. The Flying Nimbus
    The Flying Nimbus June 25, 2019

    It really says something when they wouldn't vote for Bernie because he an old white man when he would look out for them way better than harris, mayor Pete, or even Warren.

  13. Brendissimo
    Brendissimo June 25, 2019

    I appreciate the ideological diversity in this panel, but It doesnt feel representative of the LGBT community. It feels almost overly inclusive of conservative LGBT people for the sake of debate. Democrats are mainly courting LGBT voters in order to compete with each other, not to compete with Republicans.

  14. Subzero
    Subzero June 25, 2019

    You can't expect these people to atleast have their own own interests in mind if they vote for Trump.

  15. Stephane Mujomba
    Stephane Mujomba June 25, 2019

    the black guy on the far right is like 'tf is goin on?'

  16. Daniel Lozano
    Daniel Lozano June 25, 2019

    I'm going to vote for the candidates who want to gut public services. I have no need for them. And this panel, seems spineless and wishy-washy. I dont mind saying, I am a gay militant.

  17. Steven Prime
    Steven Prime June 25, 2019

    Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;' Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’

    Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder.
    Dr. McHugh, the author of six books and at least 125 peer-reviewed medical articles, made his remarks in a recent commentary in the Wall Street Journal, where he explained that transgender surgery is not the solution for people who suffer a “disorder of ‘assumption’” – the notion that their maleness or femaleness is different than what nature assigned to them biologically.
    He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”
    While the Obama administration, Hollywood, and major media such as Time magazine promote transgenderism as normal, said Dr. McHugh, these “policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the transgendered by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention.”
    “This intensely felt sense of being transgendered constitutes a mental disorder in two respects. The first is that the idea of sex misalignment is simply mistaken – it does not correspond with physical reality. The second is that it can lead to grim psychological outcomes.”
    The transgendered person’s disorder, said Dr. McHugh, is in the person’s “assumption” that they are different than the physical reality of their body, their maleness or femaleness, as assigned by nature. It is a disorder similar to a “dangerously thin” person suffering anorexia who looks in the mirror and thinks they are “overweight,” said McHugh.
    This assumption, that one’s gender is only in the mind regardless of anatomical reality, has led some transgendered people to push for social acceptance and affirmation of their own subjective “personal truth,” said Dr. McHugh. As a result, some states – California, New Jersey, and Massachusetts – have passed laws barring psychiatrists, “even with parental permission, from striving to restore natural gender feelings to a transgender minor,” he said.
    The pro-transgender advocates do not want to know, said McHugh, that studies show between 70% and 80% of children who express transgender feelings “spontaneously lose those feelings” over time. Also, for those who had sexual reassignment surgery, most said they were “satisfied” with the operation “but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn’t have the surgery.”

    “And so at Hopkins we stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, since producing a ‘satisfied’ but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for surgically amputating normal organs,” said Dr. McHugh.
    The former Johns Hopkins chief of psychiatry also warned against enabling or encouraging certain subgroups of the transgendered, such as young people “susceptible to suggestion from ‘everything is normal’ sex education,” and the schools’ “diversity counselors” who, like “cult leaders,” may “encourage these young people to distance themselves from their families and offer advice on rebutting arguments against having transgender surgery.”
    Dr. McHugh also reported that there are “misguided doctors” who, working with very young children who seem to imitate the opposite sex, will administer “puberty-delaying hormones to render later sex-change surgeries less onerous – even though the drugs stunt the children’s growth and risk causing sterility.”
    Such action comes “close to child abuse,” said Dr. McHugh, given that close to 80% of those kids will “abandon their confusion and grow naturally into adult life if untreated ….”
    “’Sex change’ is biologically impossible,” said McHugh. “People who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women. Claiming that this is civil-rights matter and encouraging surgical intervention is in reality to collaborate with and promote a mental disorder.”

  18. Chris Hoang
    Chris Hoang June 25, 2019

    #YangGang

  19. Pink Scrunchie
    Pink Scrunchie June 25, 2019

    Will the full, unedited version be uploaded or is this it?

  20. Jack Tracy
    Jack Tracy June 25, 2019

    If they hate trump so much they’ll vote dem or trump will stay

  21. Superplushie
    Superplushie June 25, 2019

    POST THE FULL CONVERSATION!

  22. Mrbam
    Mrbam June 25, 2019

    Bernie?

  23. iukeay
    iukeay June 25, 2019

    It is okay people I hate everyone equally .

    No one 2020

  24. San Francisco
    San Francisco June 25, 2019

    How can you be a bisexual queer ? These people just like to be labeled. A lot of wasted time thinking about nonsense.

  25. alreid09
    alreid09 June 25, 2019

    Lmao, who carries a central park 5 op-ed in their pocket? Did he study that piece of paper until it justified his thoughts?

  26. Maxwell Barzina
    Maxwell Barzina June 25, 2019

    Elizabeth Warren: The one who'll claim to be native American because she's .000000001% native American

  27. Chris Kerr
    Chris Kerr June 25, 2019

    4:07 how is this monitized? He said the n-word on YouTube.

  28. Chris Kerr
    Chris Kerr June 25, 2019

    2:53 how old is he/she/whatever? It looks like a third grader.

  29. Vaerum
    Vaerum June 25, 2019

    "Cis same gender loving man." I guess in his mind it sounded more unique or special than if he just said "I'm gay".

  30. Ivan Snyman
    Ivan Snyman June 25, 2019

    Why you can't take 5% or even lower number of the population for granted?

  31. hyo c Kim
    hyo c Kim June 25, 2019

    Where's James Charles?

  32. John Marano
    John Marano June 25, 2019

    Large corporations don't give a dam about any human rights, for or against. They just like to keep us divided so we won't fight for more than the crumbs they give us. That's what these bullshit videos promoting division [7:30] are about

  33. Dawn Bringer
    Dawn Bringer June 25, 2019

    I think that lady is right in trump not being a conservative. Trump has no consistent ideology.

  34. silentsnake08
    silentsnake08 June 25, 2019

    Hahaha doesn't matter who you libtards vote for.. they'll all get HAMMERED by TRUMP!!! MAGA 2020 Haters!!!!

  35. Daniel Tucker
    Daniel Tucker June 25, 2019

    well we got the Ship of Fools called the Democrat Party going on here and what's going to happen with all these promises they make. Free college for everyone well Steven's not everyone can't be done NFL Live skits Dunn's the taxpayers pay for it you the taxpayer pays for it. After that is done and all the college debt is cleared guess what the colleges will raise the tuitions. because the people that are making all the money and putting these students in debt are the colleges. So as far as minimum wage goes guess what then the union-busting starts. Guys that own places like home Depot who would pay them above minimum wage are going to shut down because the guy is going to sell it then he says I don't need anymore this Democrat dummycrat bulshit. Yeah big companies like home Depot still sell it off and then the next guy is going to bust unions and lower wages and hire more people add minimum salary Less hours and no benefits. Yeah listen to these tell me Pratt's you know comrade Bernie Pocahontas. oh yeah I know things Democrats would like to have a non-white female president Pocahontas she's not white she's native Indian Cherokee or something. LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO. Oh and why are these Democrats always yelling even I thought he was going to have a heart attack but he's got a plan for the colleges I just got a plan for all these other deals he doesn't say what it is Buddy's got a plas this plan is so good Obama doesn't back at Obama's crook. Well lazy Joe you're just too old to tires you're going to get beat up by your own people is it good thing you ripped off China.

  36. Athena GM
    Athena GM June 25, 2019

    "His executive order is not what we need".
    You know we didn't went to war just some days back, right?
    You can continue living your life as you wish without that uncertainty.

  37. Mark Stevenson
    Mark Stevenson June 25, 2019

    CRY ME A FUCKEN RIVER

  38. Wong Elfski
    Wong Elfski June 25, 2019

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    Aha Vice you always make me laugh. At you.

  39. Raven Stark
    Raven Stark June 25, 2019

    "We" should know by now that we cannot take any votes for granted. I am "progressive", and honestly did not think that there was any chance at all that my fellow Americans would vote for Donald Trump.

  40. Cancer2024
    Cancer2024 June 25, 2019

    lol if the democrats pander to the LGB they're gonna lose the general election

  41. nocentarr
    nocentarr June 25, 2019

    Stop making being retarded sound good by saying queer

  42. nocentarr
    nocentarr June 25, 2019

    Being gay, transgender, asexual is okay. Beyond that point your just mentally ill or retarded

  43. hello hello hello
    hello hello hello June 25, 2019

    So many mentally ill people

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