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Election Forum: Sacramento County Sheriff


>>> IT’S BEING TAPED FOR REBROADCAST FOR METRO CHANNEL 14 SUNDAYS BETWEEN NOW AND ELECTION DAY. THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS IS A NONPROFIT, NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATION OF MEN AND WOMEN. OUR MISSION IS TO ENCOURAGE AND INFORM AN ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN GOVERNMENT. WE DO THIS IN TWO VERY DISTINCT AND SEPARATE WAYS THROUGH EDUCATION AND THROUGH ADVOCACY. THE CANDIDATE FORMS ARE OUR EDUCATION AT WORK. THE LEAGUE DOES NOT SUPPORT, OPPOSE, OR EVALUATE OFFICE PARTIES. BUT WE DO TAKE POSITIONS ON PUBLIC POLICY ISSUES SO YOU MIGHT SEE US TAKING THE POSITION ON LEGISLATION OR BALLOT MEASURES AND THAT’S WITH OUR ADVOCACY ARM. EACH CANDIDATE WILL MAKE A ONE MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT. THEN THE CANDIDATES WILL HAVE A MINUTE AND A HALF MAXIMUM TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS. IF YOU CAN DO IT SHORTER, PLEASE DO. THE TIMER IS HERE IN THE FRONT ROW WITH BARBARA THERE. WAIVE YOUR SIGN, BARBARA. SHE’S GOT A 30 SECOND CARD THAT WILL GIVE YOU AN INDICATION OF 30 SECONDS LEFT AND SHE HAS A STOP SIGN. FINALLY THE CANDIDATES WILL HAVE UP TO A MINUTE AND A HALF TO MAKE A CLOSING STATEMENT. THE LEAGUE PROMOTES CIVIL DISCOURSE SO WE TRUST YOU WILL ALL STICK TO THAT. AND NOW THE CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR SACRAMENTO COUNTY SHERIFF ARE ON MY FAR LEFT, BRETT DANIELS, DONNA COX, AND MILO FITCH. WE DREW EARLIER FOR SPEAKING ORDER AND WE’LL BEGIN WITH OPENING STATEMENTS FROM BRETT DANIELS. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, PAULA. THANK YOU SO THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS FOR HAVING US HERE. PROBABLY DOESN’T GET A OPPORTUNITY TO SEE US TOO MUCH BEFORE THE ELECTION AND THIS ALLOWS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW US A LITTLE BIT. MY QUALIFICATIONS ARE PRETTY NICE, I THINK. THEY’RE PRETTY UNIQUE AND I’M THE ONLY CANDIDATE BECAUSE HAS NOT ONLY THE LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE BUT PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE. I’VE BEEN BLESSED TO SERVE IN THE U.S. MILITARY AND I’VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN A LOT OF UPPER MANAGEMENT AND MIDDLE LEVEL MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE SINCE MY TIME IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE’RE HAVING TO GO FAST BECAUSE WE GET ONE MINUTE BUT THE PLATFORM IS ABOUT MANY THINGS AND HOPEFULLY YOU’LL HEAR ABOUT THOSE TODAY BUT MAINLY ABOUT REFORMING THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT. A CHANGE IS NEEDED AND IT’S TIME FOR A CHANGE. ALL THREE OF US AGREE WITH THAT. UNFORTUNATELY THE PERSON THAT DOESN’T IS NOT HERE AND SO HOPEFULLY YOU’LL HEAR ABOUT THAT BUT CAN ALSO LEARN MORE ABOUT US ON OUR WEB PAGES AND FACEBOOK PAGES SO PLEASE TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET INFORMED. THANK YOU. >>DONNA COX. >>GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR ALLOWING THIS OPPORTUNITY. AS BRETT SAID, WE DON’T GET THAT MUCH OPPORTUNITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, I’M THE FIRST WOMAN TO RUN FOR THE SACRAMENTO COUNTY SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT AND I’M VERY PROUD OF THAT. I BASICALLY WANT TO BE THE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY. WE DEFINITELY NEED A CHANGE AND MY PHILOSOPHY IS THE T PHILOSOPHY AND THAT’S TRANSPARENCY, EQUALITY, AND ACCOUNTABILITY WHICH IS DEFINITELY NEEDED AND COSTED OVER $10 MILLION. I’M RUNNING TO GIVE THE COUNTY OF SACRAMENTO VOTERS A DIFFERENT CHOICE OF OPTIONS AND AN ALTERNATIVE CHOICE HERE. I HAVE 22 YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE. I’VE WORKED PRETTY MUCH EVERY DIVISION WITHIN THE SACRAMENTO COUNTY SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT PREDOMINATELY CANINE AND CSI AND COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION AND BOTH CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES. >>> MILO FITCH. >>THANK YOU, PAULA AND LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS FOR THE TUJT. I HAVE 33 YEARS EXPERIENCE WITH THE SACRAMENTO SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT WHERE I PROMOTED UP THROUGH THE RANKS TO THE POSITION OF CHIEF DEPUTY. I RETIRED OVER ALL OF CORRECTIONS AND MEDICAL DEPARTMENT AND RETIRED FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND NOW I CURRENTLY AM THE CHIEF OF THE WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT BRANCH FOR THE CALIFORNIA PRISON INDUSTRY. IN THAT ROLE, I OVERSEE ALL OF THE CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE IN THE 35 PRISONS. I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A GOODIES CUSHION TODAY ON ALL THE DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT ARE BEFORE US TODAY IN THIS COMMUNITY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS THAT COME. THANK YOU. >>OKAY. LET’S GET GOING WITH THE QUESTIONS. AND WE’LL START WITH BRETT DANIELS AND THEN I WILL BE ROTATING WHO I ASK A QUESTION FIRST. FIRST QUESTION, BRETT DANIELS. THE SACRAMENTO POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEGUN RELEASING BODY CAMERA AND DASH CAM VIDEO OF ALL USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS. THE LAPD RECENTLY ADOPTED A SIMILAR POLICY OF RELEASING BODY CAM VIDEO WITHIN 45 DAYS OF CRITICAL INCIDENT. THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT, THE LARGEST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN OUR REGION REFUSES TO DO SO. SHOULD THAT POLICY BE CHANGED? >>YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. EXCUSE ME. IT’S 2018 AND SOMEHOW THE SHERIFF HAS BEEN LOST IN THE PAST REGARDING THIS. YOU KNOW, VIDEO DOESN’T ALWAYS TELL THE STORY BUT IT CAN HELP UNDERSTAND THE STORY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED. I THINK WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THOUGH IS WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF RELEASING VIDEO COVERAGE AND CAN INFLAME A SITUATION AS OPPOSED TO INFORM. PEOPLE ARE INTENLT AND IF YOU CAN — INTELLIGENT AND IF YOU CAN TAKE A VERY CAREFUL APPROACH WITH INFORMATION ALONG WITH VIDEO AND IT CAN DO A LOT TO INFORM PEOPLE AND A LOT OF TIMES I THINK OUR ISSUES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE CAUSED ANGER ARE FOUND IN MISCOMMUNICATION AND A LACK OF COMMUNICATION. THAT’S BEEN ONE PROBLEM WITH THIS SHERIFF AND IT’S CAUSED A FRACTURE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT’S ONE OF THE REASONS THERE NEEDS TO BE A CHANGE IN THE DEPARTMENT. WE NEED TO REBUILD OUR COMMUNITY TRUST AND WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT IN MAKING SURE FOLKS UNDERSTAND AND KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE AND BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE CAN DO THAT. >>DONNA COX. >>YES, I’M OBVIOUSLY FOR THIS. IT’S ALL OVER MY SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE INCUMBENT FOR WHATEVER REASON I HEARD HE DOESN’T LIKE THE BODY CAMERAS AND I’M 100% BODY CAMERAS AND ALSO RELEASING THE VIDEOS. IT’S SHAMEFUL THAT THEY SPENT OVER $980,000 ON A PROJECT LAST JUNE WHERE HE COULD HAVE PURCHASED THE BODY CAMS AND SO NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN HE’S COMING OUT AND SAYING HE’S FOR THEM AND GOING TO GET THEM BUT WE’RE BEHIND IT’S 2018 AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BY POLICE SAYING THEY HAD THEIRS A YEAR AGO. THEY’RE STILL IN THE TESTING AND AS SOON AS I GET INTO OFFICE WHICH WOULD BE JANUARY OF 2019, IMMEDIATELY WE WILL HAVE THOSE OPERATION WITH POLICIES AND PROCEDURES SET IN ORDER AND I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE SAW RECENTLY WITH THE STEPHON CLARK INCIDENT IT HELPED WITH TRANSPARENCY AND OBVIOUSLY SOMETIMES IN A NEGATIVE SITUATION BUT FOR THE MOST PART WHEN WE’RE SHOWING THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR OFFICERS ARE GOING THROUGH AND HOW THEY HAVE TO MAKE A SPLIT SECOND DECISION, THIS HELPS AND IT ALSO HELPS WHEN — WITH COMPLAINTS WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT OFFICERS SAY THINGS AND THEY HAVEN’T AND THEY’RE INNOCENT. I DO BELIEVE THAT DEFINITELY A POSITIVE. >>MILO FITCH. >>THANK YOU. THE SHERIFF HAS HAD EIGHT YEARS TO PURCHASE BODY CAMERAS AND NOW ONLY EVEN LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE IT’S A CAMPAIGN. WE NEED BODY CAMERAS IN THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT. I ASK THE QUESTION ALSO: WHY ARE THE SACRAMENTO POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS REQUIRED TO TURN THEIR BODY CAMERAS OFF WHEN THEY GO INTO THE MAIN JAIL? WHAT’S TRYING TO BE HIDDEN IN THIS REGARD? YOU KNOW AS FAR AS LETHAL FORCE ISSUES GO, WE HAVE OTHER VIDEO THAT EXISTS. WE HAVE IN CAR CAMERAS BUT IN A RECENT DEBATE THAT I WAS AT WITH THE SHERIFF, HE EXPLAINED WHY HE’S NOT EVER RELEASED THOSE VIDEOS IN A LETHAL FORCE SITUATION AND THAT’S BECAUSE HE GAVE THE RIGHT OF THE FAMILY OF THE DESIST TO REVIEW THE VIDEOS BEFORE MAKING THAT PUBLIC AND TO DATE, HE CLAIMED THAT THE FAMILY NEVER WANTED TO RELEASE THE VIDEO. I THINK THAT’S THE DISSERVICE TO THE PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT OF TRANSPARENCY AND MY OPINION HIDING BEHIND A VAIL. >>ALL RIGHT, TIME WE BEGIN WITH YOU, DONNA COX. OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS ARE INVESTIGATED BY THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF AND FINDINGS TURNED OVER TO THE DA’S OFFICE FOR REVIEW. THE COUNTY’S INSPECTOR GENERAL REVIEWS SUCH INCIDENTS BUT HAVE LITTLE AUTHORITY TO TAKE ACTION IN SUCH INCIDENTS. SHOULD THERE BE AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW BOARD WITH AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE PENALTIES OR SANCTIONS SET UP TO REVIEW OFFICER INVOLVE SHOOTING INCIDENTS. >>ABSOLUTELY. I BELIEVE IN OTHER AGENCIES, THEY ALSO HAVE THE GRAND JURY COMING IN AND I DEFINITELY THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO JUST BECAUSE THERE’S SO MANY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS AND AS FAR AS ACCOUNTABILITY GOES AND WHEN YOU’RE PUTTING IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC, THERE’S A LOT OF DISTRUST SO YOU WANT TO BE AS MOST — AS TRANCE PARENT TO THE PUBLIC — TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC AS MUCH AS YOU CAN BECAUSE THERE’S UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF CORRUPTION OBVIOUSLY THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE NATION, AND BECAUSE PEOPLE SEE THAT CORRUPTION, THEY DISTRUST THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT SO THAT’S EXACTLY WHY I’M RUNNING FOR SHERIFF BECAUSE I WANT TO RESET THE MORAL COME PUS TO STEP IN AND — COMPASS TO STEP IN AND HAVE THE STRENGTH AND HONOR TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT I MEAN BUSINESS AND I’M GOING TO HOLD OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE AND I’M NOT GOING TO LET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HAVE BAD OR SHADY INVESTIGATIONS. THERE’S JUST TOO MANY SHADY INVESTIGATIONS AS WE SEE. EVERY DAY YOU’RE WATCHING THE NEWS AND PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF IT. WE NEED A CHANGE AND WE NEED SOMEONE TO GO GET INTO THESE OFFICES SUCH AS SHERIFF AND SHOW THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE AND MAKE SURE THESE INVESTIGATIONS ARE COMPLETELY THOROUGH AND NOT BIASED IN ANY WAY. >>MILO FITCH. >>THANK YOU. IF WE’RE TO GAIN THE TRUST OF THE PUBLIC BACK, WE NEED TO HAVE INDEPENDENT SOURCE EVALUATING ALL DEADLY FORCE SITUATIONS NOT JUST SHOOTING. WE MUST HAVE IN-CUSTODY DEATHS EVALUATED BY A THIRD PARTY. WE HAVE A DA TAKING LARGE SUMS OF MONEY DURING A CAMPAIGN FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT. WHEN THAT PERSON IS THE ULTIMATE DECISION MAKER, WE MUST GAIN THE TRUST OF THE PUBLIC THROUGH TRANSPARENCY AND A FAIR EVALUATION OF THOSE INCIDENTS THAT DID OCCUR THAT ENDED IN DEATH. >>BRETT DANIELS. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE’RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A REALISTIC ANGLE. THE ASPECT OF POLICE SHOOTINGS ARE ACTUALLY VERY RARE. THEY DON’T HAPPEN A LOT BUT WHEN THEY DO HAPPEN, IT’S A SERIOUS MATTER. THE GOVERNMENT HAS THE RIGHT TO INSTANTLY TAKE YOUR LIFE AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THAT’S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED. I DON’T THINK IT’S A CORRECT PROCESS TO HAVE THE AGENCY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT DO THE INVESTIGATION OF THE MATTER. THERE’S A VESTED INTEREST IN FINDING THAT IT WAS A PROPER RESPONSE TO WHATEVER OCCURRED. SO THERE’S A BUILT IN BIAS RIGHT THERE RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING. THAT DOESN’T MEAN THAT HAPPENS, BUT THERE IS THAT ASPECT. SO AS SHERIFF, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I WILL DO IS LOOK TO ESTABLISH A STATE TASK FORCE THAT RESPONDS TO SITUATIONS WHERE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SHOOTING THAT HAVE RESULTED IN THE LOSS OF LIFE. WE DO THAT NOW WITH OTHER SITUATIONS. WE DO HAVE TASK FORCE THAT ARE FORMED TO RESPOND EVEN LESSER TYPE CRIME — NOT CRIMES BUT SITUATIONS AND SO THE ASPECT OF A LIFE BEING LOST IS SOMETHING THAT’S TRAGIC. IT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND TO REMOVE ANY LEVEL OF HOPEFULLY ANY BIAS OR ANYTHING TOWARDS THAT INVESTIGATION AND I WOULD WORK TO FORM THE STATE TASK FORCE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO RESPOND TO ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOOTINGS THAT RESULT IN DEATH. >>MILO FITCH, FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU: THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT HAS PAID OUT MILLIONS IN SETTLEMENT AND LAWSUIT INVOLVING JAIL DEATHS AND INSTANCES OF DEPUTIES SHOOTING OR BEATING SUSPECTS INCLUDING LAST YEAR’S 6.5 MILLION IN THE DEATH OF JONATHAN ROSE. IS THERE A NEED FOR BETTER AND DIFFERENT TRAINING FOR ALL DEPUTIES AND THE USE OF FORCE ESPECIALLY WHEN DEALING WITH MENTALLY ILL SUSPECTS? >>YES, ABSOLUTELY. LARGE POPULATION OF OUR JAIL AND THOSE WE ENCOUNTER HAVE SOME LEVEL OF MENTAL ILLNESS AND WE NEED AS FIRST RESPONDERS TO BE ABLE TO DEESCALATE SITUATIONS AS WELL AS POSSIBLE AND WE’LL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT EFFECTIVE TRAINING DEALING WITH THE MENTALLY ILL. I’M A BIG PROPONENT FOR MENTAL ILLNESS TRAINING AND IMPLICIT BIAS. IF OUR OFFICERS ARE BEST TRAINED IN THE STATE AS SUCH, WE’RE ONE OF THE LARGEST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN THE STATE, WE SHOULD BE MODELING THE BEHAVIOR FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW. >>BRETT DANIELS . >>Y/E)5?X?A2W?tVñ EXTREME TRAGEDIES AND I’M GOING TO DIRECT DONNA FROM EARLIER. THE SHERIFF HAS HAD MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE LAWSUITS WHERE THE DECISION MAKING BY THE SHERIFF AND TOP HAVE COST COUNTY TAXPAYERS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SO WE DO NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. OBVIOUSLY THERE’S A PROBLEM IF THIS IS THE RESULT. WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO BETTER TRAIN THE OFFICERS TO HAVE MORE RESOURCES AVAILABLE THAT CAN RESPOND. UNFORTUNATELY IN THESE SITUATIONS, A LOT OF THEM HAPPEN SO QUICKLY THAT YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET A COUNSELOR THAT MIGHT BE RIDING WITH A DEPUTY TO THAT SCENE IN ENOUGH TIME BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THINGS BETTER AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THAT WE CAN CONTROL IS BETTER TRAINING AND BETTER ACCESS AND SO AS SHERIFF, I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR THAT. AS SOCIETY, WE NEED TO BE STEPPING UP AND SAYING THERE’S TOO MUCH SITUATIONS WHERE THOSE THAT ARE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS ARE OUT ON THE STREETS. IF WE DIDN’T HAVE THAT OCCURRING, WE WOULDN’T HAVE SOME OF THESE OR A LOT OF SITUATIONS AND THAT GOES TOWARDS THE HOMELESS ALSO. IT’S A SOCIETAL PROBLEM NOT JUST A LAW ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM AND WE NEED TO STEP UP AS SOCIETY AND SAY MAYBE WE NEED TO START EXAMING THE ASPECT OF THOSE THAT — EXAMINING THE ASPECT OF THOSE THAT TRULY NEED HELP AND HOPEFULLY WOULDN’T HAVE THIS MANY SITUATIONS. >>DONNA COX. >>WELL, NATIONWIDE THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM IS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. IT DIRECTLY RELATES TO MANY OF OUR OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS AND ALSO IT DIRECTLY RELATES TO HOMELESSNESS. AS FAR AS THE TRAINING THAT’S GOING ON, CURRENTLY WITHIN THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT, I RETIRED IN AUGUST OF 2016 AND THEY WERE CHANGING AND SENDING EVERYONE TO 24 HOUR AND ALSO ONE WEEK ALONG COURSES AND CERTAIN OFFICERS WERE BECOMING EXPERTS IN THIS AREA. AS BRETT MENTIONED, THE DIFFERENT OUTSIDE HELP RIDING WITH THE OFFICERS, WHICH IS AMAZING SO I CAN’T COMPLAIN TOO MUCH OF WHAT KIND OF TRAINING IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. DIRECTLY RELATED TO MENTAL HEALTH BUT I DO WANT TO FOCUS ON OUR ACADEMY BECAUSE THAT’S WHERE IT STARTS, AND WHEN YOU HAVE TRAINING OFFICERS AT THE ACADEMY WHO HAVE NEVER EVEN BEEN TRAINING OFFICERS IN THE PUBLIC EYE, OUT IN PATROL, I THINK THAT’S SHAMEFUL . WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD, GREAT OFFICERS OUT THERE THAT ARE TRAINING OFFICERS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED UP AND NOT ABLE TO TRABEATE THE ACADEMY — TRAIN AT THE ACADEMY AND THAT’S WHERE IT ALL STARTS SO AS SHERIFF, THAT’S WHERE I WANT TO PROMOTE PEOPLE WITH SENIORITY AND MERIT BASIS, NOT JUST WHO YOU ARE RELATED TO AND YOUR FRIENDS. THANK YOU. >>OKAY. BRETT DANIELS. THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF FOSTERING A “BRO CULTURE “THAT INCLUDES RETALIATION AGAINST EMPLOYEES THAT SPEAK OUT. A SITUATION THAT RESULTED IN MORE THAN TEN MILLION IN JUDGMENTS AND LEGAL FEES FOR FOUR FEMALE DEPUTIES THAT SUED OVER THEIR TREATMENT. HOW WOULD YOU CHANGE THE DEPARTMENT’S CULTURE? >>WELL, LET ME CORRECT YOU, THE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT BEEN ACCUSED OF THAT. THEY’VE BEEN FOUND TO BE THAT. A JURY CAME OUT IN 2016 AND FOUND A CULTURE OF PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT AND HARASSMENT. THAT DIDN’T START WITH THIS SHERIFF. THAT STARTED WITH THE PREVIOUS SHERIFF AND FROM THAT IT’S GROWN INTO A CULTURE OF A — THAT DOES NOT HANDLE ITS DIRTY LAUNDRY. THIS SHERIFF’S RESPONSE TO THE TWO PEOPLE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THAT LAWSUIT WAS NOT TO DO AN INVESTIGATION AND FIND OUT IF THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE. HE INSTEAD PROMOTED HIM TO HIS NUMBER TWO AND THREE POSITIONS IN THE DEPARTMENT TODAY. SO WHAT WOULD I DO DIFFERENT ON DAY ONE? I’D FIRE THEM. THEY NEED TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE, THEY NEED TO BE FIRED AND FROM THAT, THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR IS NOT GOING TO BE TOLERATED. DONNA TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT AND WHEN YOU ALLOW BEHAVIOR AT THE TOP AS THAT HAS HAPPENED, IT FILTERS DOWN AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT STOPS. SO MAKING SURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT UNDERSTANDS THAT THOSE KIND OF BEHAVIORS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED, YOU’RE NOT GOING TO BE REWARDED DEFINITELY FOR SUCH BEHAVIOR AND IT JUST NEEDS TO BE STOPPED AND PEOPLE NEED TO BE TREATED FAIRLY AND THEY NEED TO BE TREATED ACCORDING TO THEIR ABILITY AND SKILLS AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE INVOLVED WITH THEM. THAT JUST NEEDS TO STOP. >>DONNA COX. >>WELL LET’S JUST PUT IT THIS WAY, IF WE WERE IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY RIGHT NOW, THE INCUMBENT WOULD NOT BE RUNNING. HE THREW HIS NAME ON THE BALLOT THE LAST MINUTE TWO DAYS BEFORE HE’S RESPONSIBLE. HIS CONSULTANT CONTACTED ME AND BROWBEAT ME FOR TWO HOURS ON NOT TRYING TO GET ME TO RUN. I WAS A WITNESS ON THE CASE AND I KNOW FOR THE FACT THAT ALL OF THIS HAPPENED AND AS FAR AS THE ME TOO MOVEMENT, I DON’T KNOW WHY THEY’RE NOT IN SACRAMENTO BECAUSE LIKE HE SAID, THE NUMBER ONE AND TWO MAN, THEY SHOULDN’T EVEN BE THERE. THEY SHOULD HAVE STEPPED DOWN, IT’S EMBARRASSING THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT HOLDING THESE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE AND AS FAR AS THE WHY I WOULD HANDLE IT, IT’S EASY. AGAIN, THE T PHILOSOPHY, TRANSPARENCY, EQUALITY, AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND STOP FAVORITISM. HAVE TO STOP FAVORITISM. IF ONE OF YOUR BUDDIES SCREWS UP, YOU’LL HAVE TO HAVE A TALK WITH HIM AND SAY, HEY, MAYBE THIS LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER ISN’T FOR YOU. AND THAT’S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I — THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY ON THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE THING IS THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND AS ONE OF OUR OPPONENTS UP HERE SAID, HE HAS 33 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND I KNOW HE WAS IN CHARGE OF ONE OF THESE GUYS, THE NUMBER TWO MAN AND I WOULD HOPE THAT HE WOULD ADD THAT MAYBE HE DIDN’T SEE THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR UNDER HIS AUTHORITY. >>THAT’S ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. THAT WAS A LIE. I WAS A LIEUTENANT, MANICE WAS A CAPTAIN. I WAS TASKED WITH AN INTERROGATION WITH ANOTHER CAPTAIN IN THAT INVESTIGATION. HE DID NOT, I DID NOT, HE DID NOT WORK FOR ME SO THAT’S NOT TRUE. I WAS THE ONE THAT WENT TO COURT AND TOLD THE TRUTH IN THAT CASE. NOW TO THE QUESTION. CULTURE COMES FROM THE LEADERSHIP AND WE’VE SEEN A LACK OF LEADERSHIP IN THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT THAT HAS BROUGHT ON THIS GOOD OLD BOY CULTURE. HE’S BROUGHT UP PEOPLE INTO POSITIONS THAT HAVE NOT DONE THEIR JOB ADEQUATELY AND HE SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH PEOPLE THAT KIND OF MIRROR HIS OWN DEVELOPMENT IN THE DEPARTMENT. HE HAS HAD TEN MONTHS IN PATROL. THAT’S NOT THE WAY WE COMMAND AN ORGANIZATION IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROMOTED BASED ON THEIR MERIT FOR DOING A GOOD JOB. THOSE THAT UPHOLD THE VALUE OF THE ORGANIZATION AND THOSE THAT IMPUGN THE VALUE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS, THEY NEED TO GO. AS FAR AS CHANGING THE GOOD OLD BOY SYSTEM, WE NEED A CHANGE IN THE SHERIFF. THANK YOU. >>DONNA COX. SHERIFF JONES MET WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP THIS YEAR AND DESCRIBED SACRAMENTO AS GROUND ZERO IN THE BATTLE OVER SANCTUARY CITIES. SHOULD THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT SIDE WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN ITS LAWSUIT AGAINST CALIFORNIA OVER SANCTUARY CITIES. >>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I DON’T BELIEVE WE NEED SANCTUARY CITIES, THAT’S WHERE I STAND. I’M FOR ALL PEOPLE AND THE UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY. THEY’RE ALSO VICTIMS, THERE ARE PEOPLE RUNNING FROM MEXICO THAT ARE AFRAID AND WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE CORRUPTION THAT’S GOING DOWN THERE WITH THE CARTEL. AS FAR AS THE WAY I BELIEVE IS TREATING ALL PEOPLE FAIR AND IF THEY’RE HERE, THE UNDOCUMENTED ARE HERE, AND THEY’RE A VICTIM OR A WITNESS OR A SUSPECT, THEY SHOULD BE TREATED APPROPRIATELY. THIS QUESTION IS OBVIOUSLY MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, HIGHER LEVEL THAN THE SHERIFF BECAUSE IT’S OUT OF OUR SCOPE OF DUTY AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, CHASING PEOPLE DOWN THAT ARE UNDOCUMENTED. THAT’S SOMETHING I HAVE 13 YEARS OF PATROL EXPERIENCE AND WHILE I WAS OUT ON PATROL, I’VE NEVER HAD ANY SITUATION OF CHASING PEOPLE DOWN AND CALLING ICE AND TELLING THEM WE HAVE TO DEPORT THEM. I FEEL IT’S OBVIOUSLY NECESSARY IF SOMEONE IS AIR FORCED AND THEY GO TO JAIL AND THEY ARE A DANGER TO SOCIETY AND WHEN WE RELEASE THEM, OBVIOUSLY I’M A TEAM PLAYER AND I LIKE TO WORK WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES AND AGAIN, THIS QUESTION I FEEL IS LIKE A BIGGER SOCIETAL PROBLEM THAN JUST SHERIFF. AS SHERIFF, YOU ENFORCE THE LAWS, NOT MAKE THEM. >>MILO FITCH. >>THANK YOU. AS SHERIFF WE’RE SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE LAWS OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF CALIFORNIA AS WELL. THE SENATE BILL 54 WAS PASSED AND IT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND HERE IN CALIFORNIA. I FULLY SUPPORT THE LAW AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE SEEN A CHILLING EFFECT OCCUR AFTER SHERIFF JONES VISIT TO WASHINGTON DC WHERE HE VISITED WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP. HE SAID LIKE YOU MENTIONED THAT WE WERE AT GROUND ZERO AND WE’VE HAD SPECTACULAR FAILURES WITH REGARDS TO IMMIGRATION. WE’RE A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY WITH MANY DIFFERENT IMMIGRANTS AND DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND WHAT HE’S EFFECTIVELY DONE IS SENT A SHOCK WAVE THROUGH THOSE COMMUNITIES TO INSTILL FEAR AND PEOPLE NOW FROM THOSE COMMUNITIES MAY BE AFRAID TO REPORT A CRIME THAT THEY’RE A VICTIM OF OUT OF FEAR OF DEPORTATION. I DON’T AGREE WITH SCOTT JONES’ OPINION AND OUR PRACTICE IN THIS MATTER, AND I’LL CHANGE THAT. >>BRETT DANIELS. >>WELL, DITTO TO ABOUT HALF OF WHAT MILO SAID AND DITTO TO ALL OF WHAT DONNA SAID. WE’RE ANSWERING A QUESTION ABOUT SCOTT JONES, A GUY THAT’S NOT HERE. A GUY THAT’S NOT HERE. WE OBVIOUSLY CAN SEE THE PROBLEM. I THINK DONNA WILL REALLY TOUCH ON SOMETHING IMPORTANT IN HER 13 YEARS OF BEING ON THE STREETS AND NOT HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS. VIE NOT MAYBE QUITE AS MUCH BUT RESPONDED TO ABOUT 20,000 LAW ENFORCEMENT CALLS IN MY CAREER. THE ISSUE NEVER CAME UP ONE TIME. NOT ONE TIME. IT’S NOT AN ISSUE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT CAN BE AN ISSUE FOR THE JAIL SYSTEM. WHEN I’M SHERIFF, I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT ALLOW OFFICERS TO ENGAGE FOLKS THAT ARE WITNESSES AND VICTIMS OF CRIMES IN REGARDS TO IMMIGRATION STATUS. THAT’S NOT OUR JOB, IT’S A FEDERAL JOB AND THE FEDERAL AUTHORITIES NEED TO STAKE CARE OF THAT. — TAKE CARE OF THAT. IF YOU FIND YOUR WAY TO OUR JAIL AND VICTIMIZE SOMEBODY AND ONE OF THE THINS MISSING FROM THE DISCUSSION, I DO HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OF FOLKS THAT ARE ILLEGAL, PEOPLE ARE VICTIMIZED IN THIS COMMUNITY BY PEOPLE THAT KNOW THEY LIKELY WILL NOT REPORT THE CRIMES THAT HAVE OCCURRED TO THEM AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. IF YOU VICTIMIZE SOMEBODY AND YOU’RE A PREDATOR AND YOU HARM SOMEBODY AND YOU COME TO OUR JAIL, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE IN OUR COUNTRY AND I WILL WORK WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE SURE YOU’RE NOT HERE. >>MILO FITCH, LAST MONTH U.S. ATTORNEY ANNOUNCED HIS OFFICE FILED FOR THE CIVIL FORFEITURE OF A FEW DOZEN HOUSES INVOLVED IN ILLEGAL MARIJUANA GROWING OPERATIONS ACROSS THE SACRAMENTO REGION. WHAT IS YOUR VIEW OF THE CIVIL FORFEITURE OPTION AGAINST CRIMINAL MARIJUANA ACTIVITY? DO YOU AGREE IT’S A GAME CHANGE KNOW. >>WITH THE LAW CHANGED NOW RELATIVE TO LEGALIZATION OF CANNABIS, I THINK WE’LL SEE LEGAL GROWS IN PROFESSIONAL MANNER AND HOPEFULLY OUR ILLEGAL GROWS WE’VE EXPERIENCED TO A VERY LARGE EXTENT IN HOMES, MANY TIMES RENTED HOMES, ARE GOING TO CURTAIL. IN THE MEANTIME I DO AGREE WITH THE CIVIL FORFEITURE WITH MCGREGOR SCOTT. >>BRETT DANIELS. >>AS FAR AS THE CONCEPT I CERTAINLY AGREE BUT EXTREME CAUTION NEEDS TO OCCUR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT FROM THE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IS OUR CONSTITUTION AND WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR CONSTITUTION AND IF THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO COME AND TAKE YOUR PROPERTY, THERE HAS TO BE A VERY COMPELLING REASON. IF WE FIND YOU’VE ENGAGED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IS A PART OF THE ASSETS YOU’VE BEEN ABLE TO GAIN FROM THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, ABSOLUTELY THAT YOU SHOULD LOSE THAT PROPERTY AND SO I DO SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF THAT, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE WITH EXTREME CAUTION. >>DONNA COX. >>YES, I ALSO SUPPORT LIKE BRETT SAID REGARDING CAUTION. MY OPINION ON THE WHOLE THING IS HOPEFULLY SOON IT WILL BECOME COMPLETELY LEGAL AND THAT WAY WE WON’T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES AND I BELIEVE THAT EVENTUALLY WHEN IT IS LEGAL, 100%, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AT A FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL. HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE MORE TAXES ON OBVIOUSLY THE MARIJUANA GROWERS AND THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND WITH THAT — WITH THOSE TAXES, WITH THAT MONEY, WE CAN AFFORD MORE OFFICERS BECAUSE THE MAIN PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE ON THE STREET IS THAT WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS AND THEN THE OFFICERS THAT WE DO HAVE ON THE STREET ARE OVERWORKED. I KNOW THAT’S A LITTLE OFF TOPIC FROM THE SUBJECT OF MARIJUANA BUT I DID WANT TO THROW IT IN THERE AND MY BELIEF SYSTEM BECAUSE THAT’S JUST WHAT &çBELIEVE ABOUT THE “(‘ZJC( iXte BECOMING ILLEGAL EVENTUALLY. >>BRETT DANIELS. >>OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS PARENTS AND STUDENTS HAVE RAISED CONCERNS OVER THE SHERIFF’S SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS WHO WORK IN THE ELK GROVE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY BELIEVE THAT OFFICERS HAVE MISTREATED STUDENTS LIKE TREATING THEM LIKE CRIMINALS AND OVERREACTED OVER MINOR DISCIPLINARY ISSUES. WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THEIR CONCERNS? >>WELL, I DON’T REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. I DON’T HAVE INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE OF THE ACTUAL FACTS OVER THERE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE THE RESOURCES TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN SAFE AND BY DOING THAT LIKE IN CITRUS HEIGHTS, WHAT WE DO IS WE PROVIDE THE TOOLS — TWO SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS FOR HIGH SCHOOLS. WE FUND THAT. I’VE SAT DOWN WITH A GENTLEMAN WHO’S VERY CONNECTED TO — I HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF THE WORDS I USE. A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT PROVIDES DEPUTY SHERIFFS AND USES DEPUTY SHERIFFS FOR THEIR SCHOOLS. THE SHERIFF WON’T SIT DOWN AND COOPERATE WITH THEM ON DEVELOPING A MUCH MORE REASONABLE APPROACH TO THE COST. THE SHERIFF CURRENTLY CHARGES THEM ABOUT $85 AN HOUR TO PUT A DEPUTY THERE AND A DIFFERENT DEPUTY GOES EVERY DAY AND NO OWNERSHIP. THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE. IN CITRUS HEIGHTS, OUR OFFICERS HAVE A INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH STATE OF THE UNIONS, VERY WELL RECEIVED, GREAT POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS AND THAT’S WHAT WE NEED. AS SHERIFF, I WILL DEVELOP A DIVISION THAT HAS SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS PERMANENTLY ASSIGNED AND WILL PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO REDUCE THE COST TO LESS THAN WAY LESS THAN ONE-HALF OF WHAT THEY’RE PAYING NOW AND WILL ALLOW MORE OFFICERS TO BE INVOLVED IN SCHOOLS. IT’S THE REALITY FOLKS. WE NEED OFFICERS IN OUR SCHOOLS TO PROTECT OUR KIDS. >>DONNA COX. >>IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE RIGHT OFFICER WHO IS ASSIGNED TO THESE SCHOOLS, AND THE PROBLEM WITH THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT AS WE SPEAK IS THAT THEY WANT THEIR OFFICERS TO MOVE AROUND EVERY TWO TO THREE YEARS IN ORDER TO PROMOTE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, TO GET MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ALL OVER THE BOARD. WELL, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS PHILOSOPHY IS YOU DON’T HAVE ANY EXPERTS AND ESPECIALLY WITH OUR KIDS, IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU WANT THE BEST OFFICER, SOMEONE THAT HAS PASSION, DESIRE, SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO WORK THERE. NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO WORK AROUND CHILDREN AND LIKE THE WAY WE HAVE SEEN, THERE’S BEEN SOME COMPLAINTS AND WITH THOSE COMPLAINTS, USUALLY A PERSONALITY ISSUE WITH OFFICERS AND THE KIDS THINK THE OFFICER’S A BULLY OR MEAN OR SHE, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER IS THE OFFICER ASSIGNED THERE. SO AGAIN, AS SHERIFF, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I’M NOT HAVING MY OFFICERS MOVE AROUND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BEST OFFICERS ARE IN THE BEST PLACES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WORK WITH THE CHILDREN AND WANT TO WORK AT SCHOOLS ARE THE BEST SCHOOL OFFICERS. THANK YOU. >>MILO FITCH. >>THANK YOU. WE’VE SEEN SCHOOLS ADOPT A NO TOLERANCE POLICY AND MANY TIMES LEADS TO EXPULSION. THE AVERAGE READING LEVEL IS SEVENTH GRADE. IF PEOPLE DO NOT GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL, THEY’RE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO GO TO JAIL OR PRISON. THIS IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE. I BELIEVE OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER CAN BE A VERY EFFECTIVE RESOURCE TO STOPPING THIS PRACTICE AND HELP WITH THE STUDENTS TO MAKE SURE THEY GRADUATE AND GRADUATE ON TIME. WE CANNOT BE VIEWED AS US VERSUS THEM. WE HAVE TO BE A PARTNER WITH THE STUDENTS AND A PARTNER WITH ALL OF OUR EDUCATORS AND ADMINISTRATORS IN EACH OF THE SCHOOLS. I’LL WORK VERY HARD IN DEVELOPING GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH EACH OF OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS. THANK YOU. >>DONNA COX. DO YOU AGREE WITH THE CURRENT PROCESS FOR OBTAINING A CONCEALED WEAPON’S PERMIT. >>I DO. 100% AND I’M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS QUESTION UP. I DON’T KNOW IF IT’S BECAUSE I’M A WOMAN AND I HOPE THAT’S NOT WHAT IT IS BUT FOR SOME REASON EVERYONE THINKS I WANT TO BECOME A SHERIFF AND TAKE EVERYONE’S GUNS AWAY. THAT IS NOT THE CASE AT ALL. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN HAROLD, A POPULATION OF 900. MY DAD WAS ON THE DEPARTMENT FOR 35 YEARS AND WE HAVE GUNS. I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE, IF THEY ARE ABLE TO APPLY AND GO THROUGH THE TRAINING, IF THEY’RE MENTALLY CAPABLE, BY ALL MEANS, PLEASE, APPLY FOR YOUR CCW. I KNOW THAT THERE’S SOME SLOWUPS WITH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW BUT IT’S NOT EVEN AT THE COUNTY LEVEL BUT ALSO AT THE STATE LEVEL AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ONE PERSON DOING THE FINGERPRINT BACKGROUNDS AND AS FAR AS THE PROCESS GOES RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY THING I’D LIKE TO DO IS AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION. I HAVE GOTTEN WIND AND THE DONOR’S LIST MATCHES THE CCW AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS NOT A TRUE BELIEF. >>MILO FITCH. >>THANK YOU. >>I HAVE A VERY DIFFERING OPINION. I BELIEVE SOME PEOPLE DO HAVE A NEED FOR A CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT AND IF THEY PASS THE REQUIREMENT THEY SHOULD BE A CONCEALED WEAPON. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEMONSTRATE A TRUE NEED AND UNFUNDED LIABILITY FOR THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT. ABOUT $275,000 A YEAR THAT’S NOT FUNDED BY THE COUNTY TO ISSUE THESE CONCEALED WEAPONS. YOU KNOW, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT SCHOOLS, MANY PEOPLE VOLUNTEER AT THE SCHOOLS AND THEY’RE OUT OF POCKET THAT LIVE SCAN EXPANSE. I’D RATHER REDIRECT THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY GOING INTO THE 1K508S TO MAKE THE — SCHOOLS AND MAKE THE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT BETTER AND SAFER FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS. >>BRETT DANIELS. >>I’M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT MILO’S LANGUAGE OF NEED. YOU HAVE A RIGHT UNDER THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SO YOU CAN OBJECT TO THE ISSUE OR SUPPORT THE ISSUE. IF YOU WANT THAT CHANGED, YOU SHOULD WORK TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION. SO TO EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE. AS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, IF I’M GOING TO RESTRICT YOUR RIGHT, I’M THE ONE THAT HAS TO HAVE A EXCELLING REASON TO DO — COMPELLING REASON TO DO SO. IF PEOPLE WANT TO GET A CCW, THEY CAN DO SO. THIS WAS AROUND FOR 20 YEARS WHEN THE SHERIFFS WOULD ONLY RELEASE TO WHAT DONNA MENTIONED EARLIER TO PEOPLE ON THE LIST. SO I’VE IMN AN ADVOCATE FOR — BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE’S RIGHTS TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SHERIFF’S DONE THAT I WOULD COMMEND HIM ON AND THE PROBLEM THOUGH IS SOMETHING THAT DONNA TOUCHED ON TOO IS THERE’S A DELAY. WE NEED TO ELIMINATE THE DELAY. YOU SHOULD NOT BE DELAYED IN EXERCISING A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE TO BEAR COST THAT’S A BURDEN ON YOU TOO TO BE ABLE TO EXERCISE A RIGHT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AND CLEAN THOSE AREAS UP AND CERTAINLY I WOULD SUPPORT THE CONTINUED EFFORT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES. >>OKAY. IT’S TIME FOR CLOSING REMARKS. WE’RE GOING TO MIX TUP. WE’LL START CLOSING REMARKS WITH DONNA COX. >>THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT’S BEEN AN HONOR UP HERE TODAY TO REPRESENT THE FIRST WOMAN TO RUN FOR SACRAMENTO SHERIFF, WHICH I’M HAPPY ABOUT. LIKE I SAID, I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE T PHILOSOPHY: TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, EQUALITY. I BELIEVE IF WE HOLD OUR OFFICERS AND OUR MANAGERS AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND PROBLEMS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WILL NOT — NOT HAVE TO BE CHARGED BY THE COUNTY. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT I THINK THE COMMUNITIES ARE TIRED OF NOT BEING HEARD AND I WANT TO BE THE VOICE . I WANT TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITIES AND IT NEEDS TO STOP. WE ALL NEED TO STICK TOGETHER AND ENJOY OUR DIFFERENCES, NOT HATE EACH OTHER. WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE HATE. WE HAVE TO STOP THE US VERSUS THEM MENTALITY. IT’S TIME FOR CHANGE AND MY HASH TAG IS #BETHECHANGE AND I’LL REPRESENT THE COUNTY IN A POSITIVE MANAGER. L THANK YOU. >>BRETT DANIELS. >>THE WORD TODAY IS CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE. IT’S OBVIOUS THERE NEEDS TO BE A CHANGE AND UNFORTUNATE BUT THE GUY THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IS THE GUY THAT DOESN’T HAVE THE COURAGE TO BE HERE TODAY. HE’S NOT HERE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS AND FIRST ONE IS HE DOESN’T WANT THE JOB. HE TOLD YOU HE DOESN’T WANT THE JOB. HE TOLD YOU HE WAS RETIRING AND HE HAD ENOUGH AND WAS DONE AND GOING AWAY AND HE PICKED SOMEBODY AND DIDN’T WORK OUT AND THOUGHT I BETTER COME BACK AND THOUGHT I DON’T WANT AN OUTSIDER TO HAVE THE JOB. HE’S NOT HERE TODAY BECAUSE HE DOESN’T WANT TO ANSWER THE TOUGH QUESTIONS. I REALLY COMMEND PAULA AND THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE SOME OF THE ISSUES WERE BROUGHT UP THAT WERE THE TOUGH QUESTIONS AND VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT THE PERSON THAT REALLY NEEDS TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IS NOT HERE. I HOPE YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND. I WANT TO COMMEND DONNA FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO STEP UP AND BE THE FIRST WOMAN TO RUN FOR SACRAMENTO COUNTY. I WANT TO COMMEND MILO FOR STEPPING UP AND RUNNING FOR SHERIFF OF SACRAMENTO COUNTY . IT’S NOT FUN, FOLKS. IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE. YOU GET PUT THROUGH THINGS UNLESS YOU’RE LIKE THE SHERIFF AND DON’T SHOW UP. THERE’S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT US. WE HAVE FACEBOOK PAGES AND WEBSITES. DIG INTO IT AND FIND OUT WHICH ONE OF US WILL BE THE BETTER SHERIFF. ANY OF US WILL BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. THANK YOU. >>MILO FITCH. >>THANK YOU. SO A LOT OF POLITICIANS TALK ABOUT BEING TOUGH ON CRIME. WE’VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, THE WAR ON DRUGS, DETERMINATE SENTENCING AND THREE STRIKE LAW AND THAT’S LED TO MASSIVE INCARCERATION AND WE’RE NOT SAFER FOR IT. WE NEED TO BE SMART ON CRIME. WE NEED COMMUNITY JUSTICE. WE NEED TO EMBRACE COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING AND EFFECTIVE REHABILITATION PROGRAMS FOR THE OFFENDERS IN THE JAILS SO WHEN THEY’RE RELEASED, THEY CAN BE SELF-SUFFICIENT AND LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS AND I WILL BRING THAT TO THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT. WE NEED FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND IN THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT. AS IT WAS SAID BEFORE, WE NEED A CHANGE. I WILL BE A SHERIFF FOR EVERYONE. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU, CANDIDATES. THAT CONCLUDES OUR FORUM. ON BEHALF OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS AND METRO CABLE, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS. IT’S REALLY HELPFUL FOR VOTERS. THANKERS TO ALL THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WERE HERE TODAY TO MAKE THIS FORUM POSSIBLE. THE LEAGUE HADS GREAT RESOURCES FOR YOU VOTERS OUT THERE. IF YOU HAVEN’T FILLED OUT YOUR BALLOT YET, WE HAVE A GREAT RESOURCE FOR FACTS ABOUT CANDIDATES AND BALLOT MEASURES. IT’S CALLED VOTERS EDGE. THE WEBSITE IS VOTERS EDGE.ORG, V- V-O-T-E-R-S-E-D-G-E.O-R- G/CALIFO RNIA. WHEN YOU GO TO VOTERS EDGE, YOU CAN PUT YOUR ADDRESS IN YOU CAN GET YOUR CUSTOM BALLOT FOR ALL THE RACES JUST FOR YOU THERE AND CLICK ON A CANDIDATE’S NAME, ANY ONE OF THESE CANDIDATES PERHAPS. I HOPE YOU’RE ALL ON VOTERS ENL, CANDIDATES — EDGE, CANDIDATES, BECAUSE THE VOTER WILL CLICK ON YOUR NAME AND LEARN MORE ABOUT YOU, LEARN PRIORITIES AND LEARN WHO’S ENDORSED YOU AND RIGHT THERE IT’LL SHOW THE VOTERS WHO’S CRICKETED TO YOUR CAMPAIGN AND HOW MUCH HE’S CONTRIBUTED. VOTERS, LOTS OF INFORMATION AT VOTERSEVENT.ORG AND DROP YOUR BALLOT. FOR THOSE THAT HAVE VOTED BY MAIL IN THE PAST, YOU’VE PROBABLY RECOGNIZED THIS FORM THIS WEEK WITH THE ENVELOPE WHEN IT SHOWED UP IN YOUR MAILBOX. LOOKS QUITE OFFICIAL. FOR THE 36% OF THE PEOPLE IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY WHO DO NOT VOTE BY MAIL, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THEY DON’T RECOGNIZE SO THAT’S WHY I’M SHOWING IT TO YOU INSIDE THE WHITE ENVELOPE IS A PINK ENVELOPE AND IT’S YOUR BALLOT. EVERY VOTER GOT A BALLOT THIS WEEK. AND YOU HAVE THREE CHOICES ON WHAT TO DO WITH IT. YOU CAN PUT IT IN THE MAIL, AFTER YOU FILL IT OUT PUT IT IN THE PINK ENVELOPE AND BE SURE TO SIGN IT RIGHT HERE. VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU SIGN IT. THAT’S HOW WE MAKE SURE YOUR ELECTIONS ARE SECURE AND YOU’VE VOTED MORE THAN ONCE AND PUT TWO STAMPS ON IT. IF YOU’D RATHER NOT MAIL IT IN THE MAIL, THERE’S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TOO AND USE A DROP BOX. DROP BOXES WILL BE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. RIGHT NOW THEY’RE ALL AVAILABLE AT ALL COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARIES SO IF YOU HAVE A LIBRARY NEAR YOU, THINK ABOUT WHERE IT IS AND KNOW YOU DON’T HAVE TO GO TO ONE PARTICULAR PLACE THIS TIME TO VOTE. GO TO A FULL SERVICE VOTE CENTER AND LIKE TO VOTE IN PERSON, IF YOU’VE LOST YOUR BALLOT OR SPILLED COFFEE, GET ANOTHER AND REGISTER TO VOTE AT A VOTE CENTER AND REREGISTER TO VOTE. IF YOU’RE 16 OR 17, GO IN AND PREREGISTER TO VOTE. IT’S A FULL SERVICE CENTER AND THEY’RE ALL LISTED AT VOTER’S EDGE AND ALSO IN YOUR BALLOT PAMPHLET. NOW, WITH ALL THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO VOTE, BY THE WAY THOSE VOTE CENTERS, SOME WILL BE OPEN 11 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION. THAT MEANS TWO WHOLE WEEKENDS THAT YOU CAN VOTE INCLUDING MEMORIAL WEEKEND SO NO EXCUSES. VOTE, USE YOUR VOICE AND HELP MAKE DEMOCRACY WORK. THANKS.

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