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Debunking Steven Crowder's Arguments – Defending Social Democracies



steven crowder in a number of videos has criticized Bernie Sanders and the social democracies of Europe here I'm going to argue that his criticisms are inaccurate and misguided for a number of different reasons we're gonna take a look at how these countries compared to the United States in a variety of ways and I'm also going to break down and refute some of Crowder's arguments on subjects like health care education taxation the best way to structure our government and so forth it's gonna be a fucking blast so strap yourselves in in a video entitled why democratic socialism doesn't work steven crowder starts out by saying the following comparing democratic socialism to traditional socialism or god forbid communism its fear-mongering it's an accurate it's actually it's actually pretty reasonable he then plays a clip of Bernie Sanders defining democratic socialism and says the following this is pivotal because there's a myth going around that democratic socialism is inherently different from traditional socialism crowder seems to be implying here that Bernie Sanders basically supports plain-vanilla socialism he then goes on to explain the drawbacks and follies of socialism but I would argue he's attacking a straw man here because when you look at the actual policies that Bernie Sanders is calling for it's pretty clear that he's miss labeling himself as a Democratic Socialist when what he really supports is social democracy it may seem like a tedious distinction but these are very different systems of governance it's important to define a few terms here because when it comes to discussing different forms of governments a key problem I see is that many people on all sides of the debates are simply confused or ignorant about the terminology and this leads to people talking past one another making ridiculous comparisons and Miss applying these terms to countries that have completely different forms of government so in the interest of avoiding this kind of confusion let's define democratic socialism as wikipedia writes quote democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled alongside a politically democratic system of governments and as opposed to capitalism where the means of production are privately owned the other term to define is social democracy to again quote Wikipedia quote social democracy is a political social and economic ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal democratic polity and capitalist economy modern social democracy is characterized by a commitment to policies aimed at curbing inequality oppression of underprivileged groups and poverty including support for universally accessible public services like care for the elderly childcare education health care and workers compensation end quote or as they might define it over on Fox News the love child of Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin as we can see these systems of governance are completely at odds with one another one rejects capitalism while the other preserves it Wikipedia draws the following distinction between the two systems quote democratic socialism is distinguished from social democracy on the basis that Democratic socialists are committed to systemic transformation of the economy from capitalism to socialism whereas social democracy is supportive of reforms to capitalism end quote now that we understand the terminology let's take a look at a clip from one of the Democratic debates and compare Bernie Sanders definition of democratic socialism against the definition of social democracy and what democratic socialism is about is saying that it is immoral and wrong that the top one-tenth of 1% in this country own almost ninety percent almost owned almost as much wealth as the bottom 90% that it is wrong today in a rigged economy that 57 percent of all new income is going to the top one percent that when you look around the world you see every other major country providing health care to all people as a right except the United States you see every other major country saying to moms that when you have a baby we're not going to separate you from your newborn baby because we are going to have but we are going to have medical and family paid leave like every other country on earth those are some of the principles that I believe in and I think we should look to countries like Denmark like Sweden in Norway and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people and if you X out of all the porn tabs you have open you can go to his campaign website and look at where he stands on all the other issues and it's clear that almost line by line he supports social democracy when during the campaign or where on his website did he say that the means of production should be collectively owned or that capitalism should be abolished it must be in the same non-existent section where he called for a 90 percent tax rate another right-wing myth about Bernie to equate what he is calling for with socialism and to label his own views as democratic socialism is a mistake or who knows it could be the case that deep down he truly does support collectivizing the means of production and eliminating capitalism maybe he even thinks that we should eat the rich if we start with Chris Christie we can solve world hunger overnight if Bernie truly advocates good old-fashioned full-on socialism we should be opposed to that because I don't think it's a good system but everything he said during the campaign makes absolutely clear that this is not what he supports in the countries that he points to as a role models for the United States countries like Norway Denmark and Sweden are not staunch socialist Nations they have mixed economies which feature a blend of capitalist and socialist principles as Encyclopedia Brittanica writes quote a mixed economy in economics is a market system of resource allocation commerce and trade in which free markets coexist with government intervention a mixed economy may emerge when a government intervenes to disrupt free markets by introducing state-owned enterprises such as public health or education systems regulations subsidies tariffs and tax policies a combination of free-market principles of private contracting and socialist principles of state ownership or planning is common to all mixed economies end quote you know which other nation has a mixed economy the United States our government interferes with and regulates everything from trade business education health care and agriculture to manufacturing the difference between the United States and these European countries is basically a matter of degree the US government already plays a substantial role in health care what people like Bernie Sanders are saying is basically let's do more of what we're already doing and let's provide universal health care through our tax dollars same with education K to 12 education in the United States is funded through our tax dollars in these European nations they provide universal college education in the same way so again moving in this direction would just be a continuation of a trend that already exists in the United States in the policies that these countries have in place are not some sort of insane nonsense internationally speaking the United States is the outlier and by that I don't mean that our system is of such a stunningly high quality that we stand out from the rest as quartz dot-com reports a total of four countries across the entire world do not offer paid maternity leave Swaziland Lesotho Papua New Guinea and the United States no offense to these shithole nations as Trump might call them but I'd be surprised if half the people listening can even find these countries on a map and as advisors dot-com reports that's advisors starting with Annie the following countries provide free college tuition or nearly free tuition that is to say taxpayer-funded tuition to all of its citizens Argentina Austria Brazil Czech Republic Denmark Egypt Finland France Germany Greece Iceland Kenya Luxembourg Malaysia Morocco Norway Panama Poland Scotland Slovenia Spain Sweden Turkey and Uruguay in the list of countries that provide free universal health care to its citizens is too long to even go through but aside from the European nations it includes countries like Barbados the Bahamas Botswana Ecuador Panama Oman and Pakistan despite these facts steven crowder is opposed to instituting a taxpayer-funded health care system why because the post office sucks I don't want to get too far off into the weeds but I find it funny that Democratic socialists used the post office as an example for success the post office was awful until surprised FedEx provided competition overnight shipping two-day shipping it didn't exist it got there when it got there you hoped also before FedEx tracking numbers didn't exist that was your post office you want to see government-run health care take that and add cancer this is a pretty weak argument you'll be surprised to learn that sending mail is not the same thing as the provision of health care presumably the latter would be treated as a much higher priority task you're not going to die if you don't get your grandmother's boring handwritten letter in a prompt manner receiving adequate health care is another story not only that but we can measure the quality of health care systems in a variety of different ways to see how the United States compares with countries that have government provided health care one metric is cost Oh II see D data from 2013 shows that the United States spends sixteen point four percent of GDP on health care compared to the OECD average of eight point nine percent with the second highest spending nation clocking in at eleven point one percent we spend by far the most money on health care in the United States compared to these other countries so the next time you're drunk Republican Onkel points out that the United States is number one you'll have some room for agreement on top of cost accessibility is a huge problem in the United States because our health care is so costly and because we have two independently acquire health insurance rather than having a guaranteed to us like dozens of other countries around the globe millions of people in the United States lack coverage according to CNBC as of 2017 eleven point three percent of adults were without health insurance additionally many people avoid seeking needed treatment because they're afraid of spending an enormous amount of money and think they can just tough it out as Jennifer tab or at all right in the Journal of General Internal Medicine quote people often avoid seeking medical care even when they suspect it may be necessary nearly one third of respondents in a recent national at state survey reported avoiding the doctor even individuals with major health problems or who are experiencing symptoms avoid seeking medical care for example in one study 17% of patients diagnosed with rectal tumors reported that they had waited a year or more to seek medical consultation after noticing symptoms with some waiting up to five years avoiding medical care may result in late detection of disease reduced survival in potentially preventable human suffering end quote it's a bit puzzling to imagine that at least some of these people must be Republicans I'm reminded of a joke from one of Bill Maher stand-up shows where he said take your government hands off my jobless cancer written badi these researchers conducted a survey asking why people avoid seeking medical care in of the 1369 respondents 516 or 38% cited financial reasons including overall cost co-pays or health insurance there may have been some slight overlap here when people selected multiple answers so boom excuse me coughing here I would go get that checked out but you know health care in America fucking expensive there may have been some slight overlap here when people selected multiple answers so let's conservatively say that about one-third of people who avoid seeking medical care in the United States do so for financial reasons and considering that about one-third of Americans avoid doctor visits for all reasons one-third of one third is one ninth for you mathematicians out there this is over ten percent of American adults avoiding doctor visits purely for financial reasons this is a serious problem people suffer and die as a result of this and this would not be a problem if our health care system was taxpayer funded and guaranteed all citizens in addition to looking at cost and accessibility we can measure the quality of the health care provided itself a 2014 Commonwealth Fund study ranked the United States as fifth out of the 11 countries examined in terms of overall quality not terrible but not spectacular either especially considering the obscene amount that we compared to other nations we spend almost twice the OECD average to receive mediocre health care imagine a drag racer spending twice as much on his car yet it can't accelerate or drive any faster than his competition what this data shows is that countries which have taxpayer-funded health care systems can in fact provide health care of a comparable or higher quality than that we receive in the United States and they can provide it to all of their citizens while spending dramatically less than we do and noting that the united states has ranked 5th out of 11 in terms of quality is great if you have access to this health care but the quality doesn't really matter if you're one of the millions of Americans without health insurance who puts off needed doctor visits because of the massive financial burden you would incur in case you don't trust this Commonwealth Fund data for whatever reason the World Health Organization in 2000 the United States as 37th out of 191 nations in terms of the overall performance of our health care system ahead of it were countries that included Switzerland Sweden Spain Portugal Norway the Netherlands and Denmark yes this data is slightly outdated but it's something the World Health Organization sounds to me like a bunch of liberal propaganda so it's one thing to say the post-office sucks therefore government provided health care would also suck not exactly the kind of argument that's like leader and you was standing ovations for me but when you actually examine the data you see that the United States healthcare system is much worse than those of countries which provide precisely the kind of health care system the crowder argues against the ineptitude of the post office however is not the only reason the crowder opposes tax-funded health care he also makes the following argument a couple of things here under Bernie Sanders note a Democratic Socialist the middle class would pay more oh yeah you're making fifty thousand a year you'd be paying over five thousand dollars more a year so there's that I know I know some of you were saying but we'll get free health care in college again if you believe that everyone in government is beyond corruption and those things will happen efficiently again democratic socialism necessitates trust that all these people are beyond corruption and will do what's right for you this is a colossal e idiotic argument for so many different reasons number one you don't need to believe that everyone in government is beyond corruption to believe that the government could provide health care in college why could corrupt politicians not oversee this Crowder's logic if you can even call it that seems to be the corrupted politicians cannot provide government benefits or services here's the problem with that we all acknowledge that many high-level politicians are currently corrupted so if his logic is correct how is it that any government benefits or services currently provided are even capable of being provided your mayor might be a corrupt bastard but the bus is still going to be there to pick you up at seven o'clock in the half crazed homeless man who smells like urine is still going to be there to ride the bus and make you feel uncomfortable corruption certainly has all kinds of poisonous effects on our governments but it doesn't cause it to utterly grind to a halt and is there not corruption in business too does private enterprise not also suffer from this exact same defect does this mean that we should just abandon the idea that business can provide anything of value to us of course not you don't need to believe that business is utterly impermeable to corruption to believe that it can provide real benefits to the world in the same can be said about government even if we granted that this absurd argument was correct why not just get big money out of politics and have this not be a problem anymore let's get rid of the legalized bribery the super PACs and so forth and do away with political corruption as much as we can considering that this is what people like Bernie Sanders also supports they then provide the solution to the very problem the crowder brings up as a point against them and we know that governments can efficiently provide things like health care and college to its citizenry because many countries around the globe do precisely this I don't know why so many right-wingers talk about these issues like it's a purely theoretical discussion about zany ideas that have never been adopted because the world is just overflowing with exactly these policies yeah you mean those systems that dozens of other countries have in place in the function spectacularly like that'll ever work these people must be living on a different planet than me or something steven crowder however argues that things in some of those countries aren't as good as people like me make them out to be although no country is fully instituted democratic socialism the socialist parties and labor movements of other countries have won many victories for their people we can learn from the comprehensive welfare state maintained by the Swedes from Canada's national health care system Frances nationwide child care program and nicaragua's literacy programs and then they cherry pick data from individual facets of countries in order to make their point like nicaragua's literacy program okay why don't you talk about their GDP Canada's nationalized health care system why don't you talk about the crushing debt in a Supreme Court case that ruled it a violation of Human Rights in 2005 Sweden it's now the rape capital of the Western world and on the verge of cultural and economic collapse good for you Sweden you finally pulled one out okay let's talk about the Supreme Court case in Canada first off they didn't rule that Canada's nationalized health care system generally it was a violation of Human Rights the ruling covered a specific provision of the health care legislation of Quebec as The Globe and Mail writes quote the Supreme Court of Canada struck down Quebec's ban on using private insurance for medically necessary services covered by Medicare end quote as of 2001 according to the Canadian Medical Association Journal this was a provision that six of the ten Canadian provinces also had on the books and the rationale behind this provision in case you're curious is explained by Think Progress as follows quote basic services are covered by the government precisely because the large risk pools allow the government to negotiate cheaper rates with providers and control health care costs the government fears with good reason that if Canadians can leave the purchasing pools the governments market power would diminish end quote here I think there might actually be some room for agreements unless it could be shown that such an allowance would cause the Canadian healthcare system to suffer dramatically which seems unlikely I think people should be free to purchase supplementary private health insurance on top of the public health care they receive if that's what they want but it's worth noting that this Canadian policy is not a necessary feature of public healthcare systems for example as we read on transferwise comm quote 10% of all employed adults in sweden get supplementary coverage to help them gain quicker access to emergency care certain specialists are to avoid waiting lists for elective treatments end quote and according to an Karen Lind all writing for the Commonwealth Fund about 9% of the population of Norway has some kind of private insurance nobody is arguing that these nationalized health care systems are perfect in every single detail obviously they have their flaws and there is room for improvement in every single nation the point I'm making is that on the whole these systems are more affordable more accessible more ethical and in many cases higher quality bringing up specific defects in these systems does not negate that point and crowder just goes way out in left field on Sweden there the rape capital of the Western world what does this have to do with their welfare benefits he's just completely changing the subject here Hey look at these fantastic domestic benefits provided by the government in Sweden oh yeah well did you know that one particular type of crime occurs relatively often in Sweden it'd be like if I said hey while you're in Austin you should check out this great steak house that they have there and you're responded by saying oh yeah well you know what else they have in Austin lots of drug dealers it's just a total change of subject it's completely irrelevant to the topic at hand if your point is that the country isn't perfect yeah who ever argued that it was and I'm no expert on Sweden although I have eaten a few packages of swedish fish before but based upon what I've read any cultural or economic collapse that occurs in Sweden will largely be the result of its immigration policy not the health care system not the education system not the provision of paid maternal leave or anything of the sort crowder at one point channels his inner philosopher and explores the ethics of taxing people to fund these things College this goes back to the worldview what if I don't want to go to college what if someone decides again human nature out of their own free will too that job cleaning septic tanks that Millennials refused to do and he gets paid well why should he be taxed more to fund your decision to college there's the practical and there's the moral I gotta hand it to you Crowder that's a great point and do you know what you got me thinking why should i fund K to 12 education if I'm not gonna have kids why fund public transportation if I Drive my own car my answer is that you should be taxed to fund these things because there's more to living in a society than just being selfish and caring only about your own pocketbook these are improvements to society as a whole right here policies like this raise the floor of the entire nation are you really that disgusted at the idea that a fraction of your tax dollars might be improving other people's lives and you might not see a direct benefit from it this is a very selfish and inconsiderate political ideology and I think it has no place in our connected 21st century society and even if we are viewing this purely through the lens of self-interest society at large does see benefits when its population becomes widely educated these people will be more likely to create new inventions and technological breakthroughs cure diseases develop effective new treatments and medicines and just generally speaking will be more able to improve the world around us in a way that all of us including yourself would benefit from plus wouldn't you just prefer to live in a nation that's filled with educated people I guess if you're Steven Crowder probably not because then your audience would vanish and we don't just see broader societal benefits from education when people have access to health care they're going to be more productive and more capable of providing to society than if they were burdened by disease some treatable medical condition or whatever it may be on top of all that you should be taxed to fund these things because this is how taxation works in a country at least in theory the majority of people through their elected representatives decide on how they want their tax dollars to be spent and policies like this are implemented if there's enough support for them what alternative system would you prefer one where people only voluntarily offer up tax dollars for the things that they support or that they're guaranteed to use as if this wouldn't lead to a massive shortfall and fundraising crisis or should we virtually do away with taxation and privatize almost everything and if that's your preferred approach can you point me to a nation that has successfully implemented a system like this and thrived the advocate of social democracy has real-world example after example to point to the libertarian however only has fantasies and abstractions and do you want to talk about excessive spending take a look at our military budgets according to the Peter G Peterson foundation we spend more than the next seven highest spending nations combined a universal college education plan is estimated by Fast Company comm to cost between fifty and a hundred billion dollars per year cut our military spending in half which would still make us the highest spending nation by far and we could afford three to six college degrees per person and I guaranteed that if we did this Mexico Canada or Cuba would not invade us crowder also addresses these policies in a video he did for Prager you entitled democratic socialism is still socialism let's look at an argument he made about Denmark Denmark okay here's the time where you point to an entirely homogeneous population about one sixtieth the size of America's and you point to that as the blueprint okay let's go there this is a place where the middle class can't even afford a car because of the one hundred and eighty percent new car tax there's a lot to break down here first off what does it matter that the population of Denmark is largely homogeneous does something about minimal ethnic or racial diversity improve a nation's health care system I don't see how this could be relevant he also points out that Denmark's population is a much smaller than America's okay so what yes a larger population means more people will need to be provided with these benefits but it also means that there will be more people capable of funding these benefits so everything balances out and there's no problem this is just basic statistics right here if the proportionality of everything stays the same it doesn't matter what the total population is it feels silly to even have to spell this out but because this is such a common talking point on the right let's take a look at the numbers in a very simplified example let's say one nation has 10 million citizens and the average income is $30,000 per year they're taxed at 30% to provide all the benefits and government services $30,000 times 10 million times 30 percents equals ninety billion dollars available to spend divided by ten million citizens equals nine thousand dollars per citizen another nation has a much larger population 100 million citizens but if the average income is the same and they're taxed at the same rate to provide the same benefits we find the following 30 thousand dollars times a hundred million citizens times 30 percent equals nine hundred billion dollars available to spend divided by a hundred million citizens equals what do you know nine thousand dollars per citizen scaling the population up or down isn't going to affect the quality of the benefits or government services provided because the proportionality of everything stays the same the only exception to this would be if the population is so pitifully tiny that they just don't have the resources or infrastructure to provide such services but clearly this is not what Crowder has in mind in great job cherry-picking one particular policy of Denmark the new car tax my goodness what an egregious burden they must be rioting in the streets down there because there's no way they could languish under such an unbearable tyranny let's take a look at the world happiness report to see if economic conditions in Denmark are indeed so insufferable as of 2015 the year before this video was published and thus the most recent year that Crowder would have had access to if he cared to look Denmark was ranked third out of a hundred fifty-eight countries with the United States coming in at 15th that must be some kind of mistake haven't these people heard about the new car tax it's one thing to do what Crowder did and points it one particular policy that seems outrageous but it's much more informative to look at broad indexes like this I'll let Steven Crowder explain what steven crowder did here and then they cherry pick data from individual facets of countries in order to make their point it's also worth pointing out that of the top 10 countries in the world happiness report every single one of them provides through their tax dollars universal health care paid maternal and sick leave and most of them provide either fully or partially funded college education how strange because if you listen to certain people on the right wing you'd expect the people in countries with these policies to descend into bankruptcy beggary and misery where is the tyranny and hell on earth that I was promised you can support the production of more content at patreon.com slash skeptical human thank you all for listening

28 Comments

  1. A Skeptical Human
    A Skeptical Human June 22, 2019

    The only thing that would make you happier than living in Denmark is supporting me on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/aSkepticalHuman

  2. The mr Pope
    The mr Pope June 22, 2019

    18:44 I like how Alaska just joined Canada

  3. Jessie Ray Keaton
    Jessie Ray Keaton June 22, 2019

    China is a free market economy with a communist government. My uncle is a head consultant for great value… Ima take his word for it.. How many trips to China to u take a year dikk weed.

  4. Jessie Ray Keaton
    Jessie Ray Keaton June 22, 2019

    The proof is in the pudding.. No leftist ever go on Crowder or Shapiro and "win" while the opposite is true on cnn when they fukk up and marine tranny threatens Shapiro for exposing him.

  5. Julian Beatty
    Julian Beatty June 22, 2019

    The crowder fanboys came with the mass dislike train.

  6. Mango Waters
    Mango Waters June 22, 2019

    Lol @ 23:31–23:40

  7. Mango Waters
    Mango Waters June 22, 2019

    It would be more accurate to say that Sweden is the rape REPORTING capital of the western world

  8. sinistar99
    sinistar99 June 22, 2019

    Even that encyclopedia definition is not really accurate. There is no "free market" vs "government interference." If you took away all the "government interference" there's nothing left. the "free market" IS "government interference."

  9. 1911GreaterThanALL
    1911GreaterThanALL June 22, 2019

    90% tax rate? https://berniesanders.com/issues/demand-that-the-wealthy-large-corporations-and-wall-street-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/
    "Pass the For the 99.8 Percent Act to establish a progressive estate tax on multi-millionaire and billionaire inheritances." Confirmed.

  10. Subwayfan1998
    Subwayfan1998 June 22, 2019

    I'm not a fan of Socialism nor a Fan of Crowder the Coward either, Crowder likes to attack and claim that Bernie Sanders and Democratic Socialism aka Social Democracy are Commies which i find it Absolute Nonsense. Crowder attacks anyone who disagrees and dislike him by calling them SJW Leftist Liberal Commies, I Don't want America to be like Venezuela, Cuba, Russia and China, but Crowder is no different from Commies the way he behaves like a fucking hypocrite and a coward. Not every Socialists are Commies, There are many types and forms of Socialism, Bernie Sanders also had Openly Denounced and Opposed Communism and also he opposed the Regime of Maduro, there are many Socialists who fought against Commies like Alexander Kerensky for example, Anyone can disagree and dislike Steven Coward, Anyone not just only SJW Leftist Liberals, Anyone can disagree and dislike that coward I'm a Center-Right Conservative but not Crowder's Cuckservative and i despise Steven Crowder. I Think he is a full of shit.

  11. Subwayfan1998
    Subwayfan1998 June 22, 2019

    I'm not a fan of Socialism nor a Fan of Crowder the Coward either, Crowder likes to attack and claim that Bernie Sanders and Democratic Socialism aka Social Democracy are Commies which i find it Absolute Nonsense. Crowder attacks anyone who disagrees and dislike him by calling them SJW Leftist Liberal Commies, I Don't want America to be like Venezuela, Cuba, Russia and China, but Crowder is no different from Commies the way he behaves like a fucking hypocrite and a coward. Not every Socialists are Commies, There are many types and forms of Socialism, Bernie Sanders also had Openly Denounced and Opposed Communism and also he opposed the Regime of Maduro, there are many Socialists who fought against Commies like Alexander Kerensky for example, Anyone can disagree and dislike Steven Coward, Anyone not just only SJW Leftist Liberals, Anyone can disagree and dislike that coward I'm a Center-Right Conservative but not Crowder's Cuckservative and i despise Steven Crowder. I Think he is a full of shit.

  12. Red-Head McGee
    Red-Head McGee June 22, 2019

    have you noticed that Crowder's vid is titled "Debunking Democratic Socialism Myths" and not "Why Bernie sucks"

  13. miles
    miles June 22, 2019

    ALASKA IS CANADA

  14. Ego demon
    Ego demon June 22, 2019

    This guy never had any argument to say. He's just a stupid conservative republican who can't speak the language of logic and facts. Ironically, they are totally unconscious about it.

  15. CF Jahren
    CF Jahren June 22, 2019

    this is the weird dumbfuckery i've seen. i'm norwegian. talk about cherrypicking. we're doing great, i would never ever move to america.

  16. Stuart Mcleod
    Stuart Mcleod June 22, 2019

    The only thing worse than Crowders argument is the argument in this video.

  17. maloc1824
    maloc1824 June 22, 2019

    An argument against his Septic-tank cleaner guy is what if he wants his child to go to college.

  18. Alex Cesarz
    Alex Cesarz June 22, 2019

    Thanks. I really enjoyed this. You did a good job laying some of this out, and you nudged me a bit to the left.

  19. blackhawk
    blackhawk June 22, 2019

    plus there are so many different happiness scales that they cant even get it right i can throw the A 2012 Gallup survey  that states that panama was first…comes down to we need less government not more

  20. blackhawk
    blackhawk June 22, 2019

    how is 180% new car tax a good thing?????

  21. Lakers fan
    Lakers fan June 22, 2019

    Steven clam chowder is so smug i can barely watch his videos.

  22. Pitsky Witbulls
    Pitsky Witbulls June 22, 2019

    Bernie Sanders called himself a socialist.

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/aug/26/bernie-sanders-socialist-or-democratic-socialist/

  23. NeoGeoSNK
    NeoGeoSNK June 22, 2019

    Steven did not lie at all! I was in Scandinavia, the citizens paid very very heavy tax. Nothing is FREE ! Economy 101 ! You stupid lefty communists

  24. Someone s
    Someone s June 22, 2019

    It's actually so confusing and irritating when people like bernie sanders completely muddle up the terms. Bernie might find he now has a mass amount of real socialists when he's actually a social democrat for capitalism lol

  25. Butt hole
    Butt hole June 22, 2019

    Libtard

  26. Cody Leonard
    Cody Leonard June 22, 2019

    Wait Bernie lines up with the second definition he believes health care a human right education human right sleep on the floor till you become rich a human right he wants to take rich ppl money and give it to the lazest generation to ever exists they all have houses air tv's Netflix ect the poor are like omg I don't have 4k it's a human right

  27. Brian Hurst
    Brian Hurst June 22, 2019

    In terms of providing healthcare and other taxpayer benefits, Steven Crowder frequently presents stats and statistics on how well the programs in other countries work as evidence, and he shares his sources via links. You have only provided THAT other countries have these programs as evidence, but the mere existence of programs in other countries is not evidence that those programs are better!

    The US is also the only country in the world to guarantee free speech in the constitution. By your logic in this video, that fact would be evidence that we shouldn't guarantee free speech, because no other country provides it.

    Popular is not the same as good!

  28. Brittany Brooks
    Brittany Brooks June 22, 2019

    Just outta fairness how many of the countries you named also provide most of the worlds security

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